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Victor(y) and the other heroes at Saab. But GM is out of business!

October 29, 2011, at 23:21 Written by Robert Collin
Well then, it is clear that one can blame Victor Muller too much. And as good Swedes do it. (I get so tired.)

But one thing is certain: Without Muller Saab had been away two years ago.

It is he and he alone who has given Saab the artificial respiration as needed to reach today's agreement.

Then, if that's enough, that's another thing.

General Motors is currently working with Chinese SAIC to build a brand new Chinese car brand, based on old technology from Opel. Why would GM think it's a good idea in principle the same technique used by Youngman?

According to data Bilbloggen has, GM has written a 150-page list of demands on everything Youngman and Saab must satisfy in order to build cars in China. There are too many demands. So - impossible!

Saab talks a lot about his new Phoenix platform that all new Saab will be built. Well, it looks good. But 50 percent is still GM. And GM says will almost certainly reject Youngman's plans.

The immediate future looks probably like this: The National Debt Office and the EIB says yes to the deal, but GM says no. And when it falls.

But - more important time is saved. Then Victor Muller, as usual with his Plan B. Then Youngman is replaced by the U.S. finance company North Street Capital while Pang Da remains.

This allows Saab to continue building cars in Trollhattan, the current technologies (9-3 and 9-5) and 9-4X in Mexico and, eventually, from 2014, on its new platform Phoenix.

And Pang Da can sell cars in China.

Another reptrick by Victor Muller. We will not count him out or Saab.

Finally, sad news: Saab production manager Gunnar Brunius stops!

According to Bilbloggen he goes to Volvo. And he takes his next one with him.

Yes, this is a huge blow to Saab. Brunius is the one who stood with both feet on the ground when Victor Muller flown around it.

It is Brunius which ensured that the wounded Saab not fallen to pieces. It is he who could have started production with a few days notice, which made sure that nothing is rusted.

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AX lover schreef op 30 oktober 2011 23:55:

GM steekt een stokje voor de plannen van Victor Muller?

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Voor 90% kan ik me wel vinden in de woorden van Robert Collin (dé Saab expert in Zweden), alleen zijn visie dat Youngman vervangen gaat worden door NSC kan ik niet volgen. North Street Capital stelt niks voor en heeft niet de 100en miljoenen om te investeren.

Robert Collin heeft een boek over Saab geschreven en wordt gezien als pro-Saab en zéér goed op de hoogte voor wat betreft er allemaal speelt bij het merk. Hij wordt dan ook op handen gedragen door de fanboys van Saabsunited.

Des te opvallender is het dat ze dit artikel niet geplaatst hebben. Ze sluiten waarschijnlijk liever hun ogen voor de harde waarheid.

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bart1805 schreef op 31 oktober 2011 00:02:

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Mijn hemel, het gaat nog langer duren.....
Up Up Up!

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AX lover schreef op 31 oktober 2011 00:05:

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En NSC gaat natuurlijk het dubbele betalen van wat Youngman wilde betalen!

5 euro morgen!

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bart1805 schreef op 31 oktober 2011 00:06:

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5 euro?
Wanneer stop je nou eens met die negativiteit?

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AX lover schreef op 31 oktober 2011 00:12:

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Ok, 10 euro dan?

Up, up, up! Mooie stijging van honderden procenten!

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GM: "Saab has to communicate with us"

Published: Friday 28 October at 15:45
General Motors, Saab's former owner, must approve the deal with Youngman and Pang Da. But at GM, little is known.
- It is for Saab to communicate with all suppliers, says James Cain, spokesman of General Motors.

General Motors says that they do not know anything yet about the agreement that Saab has signed with its Chinese partners.

- I think the goal, Saab's goal is to continue to build cars. GM supports Saab. When we receive information we will discuss it and make a decision, says James Cain, spokesman for General Motors.

- We are a supplier to Saab, so we have been following news coverage closely, he says.

When can you take a decision to approve or not, the deal?
- I think the goal, Saab's goal is to continue to build cars. GM supports Saab. When we receive information we will discuss it and make a decision.

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Antonov wants back his billions

Published: Friday 28 October at 15:34
The Russian banker Vladimir Antonov looked far out to be the salvation of Saab, but now that Saab focus is on Chinese Pang Da and Youngman, he chooses to pull out completely.

- More involvement ends of course in doing so, the Saab and the Swedish Automobile express everything, says Lars Carlstrom Antonov spokesman in Sweden.

So far, Vladimir Antonov invested around 1.4 billion Kronor [155 miljoen euro] in Saab's owner company, money that has gone to both share purchases and loans.

But that money does he want now therefore be withdrawn. In addition to Saab as Swans assets consist of the sports car manufacturer Spyker, an activity that also is for sale.

According to Swan will lose around 630 million Kronor [70 million euro] if the deal with Chinese companies go through. What the final bill will be for Vladimit Antonov is not clear, according to Lars Carlstrom.

- I think it is too early to speculate and say exactly which sums losing and not losing. There you get to sit down and analyze and see exactly where the values ??are. Since Spyker still remain as an asset, you have to see what value the company.

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VolvoR schreef op 31 oktober 2011 07:41:

I.O.€1,25 YES!!