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eduardo3105
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Ben steeds meer overtuigd van nieuws dit weekend
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de schaatser
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Just lucky schreef op 1 oktober 2021 16:19:

[...]Precies, we doen het ronduit slecht tov de kreupele CF, nu +6%
WE zitten in een transitie fase i.v.m. hogere inflatie verwachtingen. Betere waarderingen voor de achterblijvers ten kostte van de Tech aandelen.
Amerikanen zijn altijd sneller met dit soort acties dan Europeanen. vandaar dat CF even lekker gaat. Wij liften mee en in de zoektocht naar potentiele pareltjes op de beurs ( Harry Mens ha, ha, ) gaat OCI straks ook als een raket.
Just lucky
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de schaatser schreef op 1 oktober 2021 16:42:

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WE zitten in een transitie fase i.v.m. hogere inflatie verwachtingen. Betere waarderingen voor de achterblijvers ten kostte van de Tech aandelen.
Amerikanen zijn altijd sneller met dit soort acties dan Europeanen. vandaar dat CF even lekker gaat. Wij liften mee en in de zoektocht naar potentiele pareltjes op de beurs ( Harry Mens ha, ha, ) gaat OCI straks ook als een raket.
Mooi bericht om de week mee af te sluiten. Proost.
BultiesBrothers
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Misschien dat mijn vraag vanavond wordt behandelt bij Beurstalk.com wat betreft OCI. Ben benieuwd of de experts er naar gekeken hebben en er iets zinnigs over kunnen zeggen. Hopelijk dat ze ook zich willen verdiepen in minder bekende aandelen op de amsterdamse beurs ipv alleen maar stockpaardjes
BultiesBrothers
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mobile.twitter.com/IcisFertDeepika/st...

What a day it has been for #urea prices. Egypt tradesHeavy dollar sign700/tonne FOB for 10,000 tonnes, highest since Sept 2008. As for the Indian tender, there is almost $50 difference in offers
@rcfkisanmanch
received for east & west coast. Again very high prices in India #ICIS #Fertilizer
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Dit is de angst,

European Gas Hit Record 100 Euros as Energy Crunch Worsens

European Gas Hit Record 100 Euros as Energy Crunch Worsens
Anna Shiryaevskaya, Vanessa Dezem and Elena Mazneva
Fri, October 1, 2021, 1:11 PM
In this article:

YARIY
+0.23%

YRAIF
0.00%

CF
+6.77%

BASFY
-1.16%

BFFAF
-0.33%

NG=F
-4.48%

CL=F
-0.24%

(Bloomberg) --

European gas surged to a record 100 euros as China stepped up a global fight for energy supplies, in a move that threatens to derail the economic recovery. Prices later retreated.

In volatile trading, benchmark futures gained as much 2.3% on Friday before retreating. China ordered its state-owned energy companies to secure supplies for this winter at all costs, according to people familiar with the matter. That will intensify a battle for liquefied natural gas and coal cargoes just as flows into Germany via a key Russian pipeline tumbled.

Energy prices are rising from the U.S. to Europe and Asia as the economy recovers from the global pandemic and people return to the offices. Europe is struggling to secure enough gas and coal ahead of the winter, with rising prices forcing some of industrial giants from fertilizer producers CF Industries to Yara International ASA and chemicals giant BASF SE to shut plants or curtail output.

Read More: What’s Behind Europe’s Skyrocketing Power Prices: QuickTake

Governments are struggling to respond to the crunch, with an increasing number taking steps to try to shield voters from the worst effects of rising prices. France will block any new increase in regulated gas tariffs and cut taxes on electricity, Prime Minister Jean Castex said on TF1 on Thursday.

“The volatile trading already shows that no one really knows how high gas can go, but we’re definitely in for a wild ride,” said Niek van Kouteren, a senior trader at PZEM, a Dutch energy company. “The question will be: where there will be demand destruction? If you then see governments stepping in and subsidizing gas prices, like France announced yesterday, there is no incentive at all to lower your demand.”

Dutch gas futures surged to 100 euros a megawatt-hour, before retreating 0.7% to 97 euros by 1:05 p.m. in Amsterdam. Prices were swinging between gains and losses as traders weighed the potential for demand curbs as more factories shut or reduce production.

Storage Sites

European storage sites are just under 75% full, the lowest level for this time of year in more than a decade. Inventory withdrawals typically start by the end of the month, depending on the weather. So far, temperatures in northwest Europe are forecast to be largely within seasonal norms in October.

Flows from top supplier Russia into Germany’s Mallnow via the key Yamal-Europe pipeline also dropped just as the heating season begins. At an auction on Thursday, no extra pipeline capacity was booked to deliver fuel to the Mallnow compressor station the following day.

“Gas can go now as high as it needs to knock demand out,” said Andreas Gandolfo, leader of the European power team at BloombergNEF. “For some European industries gas has become too expensive. For some, including us, who have gas heating at home, it can probably go a lot higher before there is a decision to switch off.”

The treat of more industrial closures in Europe also risks stalling the rally in European carbon futures. Some of the companies curtailing production or closing factories are energy-intensive users and need to use carbon permits to cover their emissions. The slowdown could lead them to sell their allowances, said Trevor Sikorski, head of natural gas and energy transition at the London-based consultants Energy Aspects.

Carbon prices rose, adding 2.8% to 63.48 euros a metric ton, while German power gained 3.8% to 134.20 euros a megawatt-hour.

In Asia, the price of liquefied natural gas surged to a record $34.47 per million British thermal units on Thursday. Both the cost in Asia and in Europe are about $190 a barrel of crude oil equivalent.

“Longer term, prices are of course unsuitable high and we do expect gradual normalization next year,” said Oystein Kalleklev, chief executive officer of Flex LNG Ltd. “But with empty inventories there will be a fight for restocking next summer so it will take a bit more time for the market to rebalance.”
eduardo3105
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BultiesBrothers schreef op 1 oktober 2021 17:36:

hoppa mooie eindveiling
12cent erbij in de eindveiling en bijna op hoogste koers gesloten.
25.7400 86,886 17:35:13
25.6200 126 17:29:46
25.6200 51 17:29:35
25.6375 823 17:29:33

goed weekend!!
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Analysis: Spring concerns laid bare at fertilizer event
Published date: 01 October 2021

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Concerns about supply and consumption of fertilizers in Europe, particularly during spring 2022, were among the hot topics at this week's International Fertilizer Association (IFA) conference in Lisbon.

Delegates spoke of a potential "disaster" and "catastrophe" ahead, based on concerns over high prices, tight supply and logistics. The key to the entire situation is a sharp increase in gas prices, which have led to significant rises in costs for nitrogen-based fertilizer products and, recently, production curtailments in Europe.

CF in the UK, Achema in Lithuania and Yara at various locations across Europe have been among producers that have had to reduce or cease output of key raw material ammonia.

CF has received government support to restart operations at one of its two UK facilities, but that will not be enough to ease supply concerns in the country, particularly as the company already has an estimated order book exceeding 100,000t to cover.

Another key supplier in the region — one that, unlike CF, produces within the EU — said at the IFA that the likelihood of it receiving government support, to allow it to increase output, was low. When asked by Argus whether this was linked to potential complexities of an EU member state issuing such funding to a domestic firm, the contact was uncertain, but strongly felt that the backing was unlikely to come regardless.

Problems ahead, no matter which path is taken
Given that gas costs have risen further since the conference ended, a short-term rebound in ammonia production — and therefore, also in output of key fertilizers such as urea, AN, CAN and UAN — is unlikely in Europe.

The current tightness in supply is a problem in itself, but even a resolution of this initial quandary would lead to a subsequent issue. As it stands, the most immediate concern is that there will simply not be enough nitrogen available to farmers, come the key application season of spring.

But assuming a hypothetical situation in which gas prices fall and ammonia output increases in — for example — January, a subsequent problem would be an extreme backlog and bottleneck of deliveries in early 2022, as so few would have been made ahead of time.

The other key, related issue is prices — they are set to continue rising, because of the high gas costs and tight supply of nitrates, UAN and other products. Prices will also increase for any complex fertilizer with nitrogen content, assuming no — currently unlikely — counterbalancing fall in prices for other raw materials, such as MOP and DAP.

Indeed, given current trends, prices could easily become too high for many farmers to afford. If traders, wholesalers, co-operatives and others also foresee this, they too will buy less product.

The two key factors could cancel one another out — lower production and lower demand would result in a balance, easing concerns around the logistics of making timely deliveries.

But that would still mean problems with regard to arguably the most important factor — not enough nitrogen would be applied in a Europe-wide context during spring, which could significantly hit food production.

A potential winner in DAP
DAP had been set to lose out this season, as many around Europe considered prices for it to be too high and expected a significant number of farmers to go without. Generally considered to be less important in short-term agricultural thinking than nitrogen, it was felt that farmers would save as much of their input budgets as possible for the likes of AN or CAN, and/or use cheaper phosphates alternatives, including organic options. Meanwhile, DAP producers were relatively unconcerned, focused instead on other, larger phosphates markets across the globe.

But that was all before dramatic developments took place in the nitrogen segment. Now, the 18pc nitrogen content in DAP appears potentially highly attractive, and provides another supply option to buyers in the face of tight supply. Moreover, farmers would be able to apply the phosphates element that they may otherwise have dropped from their programme for the season.

Unsurprisingly, the above scenario has apparently not been lost on phosphates suppliers, which have increased offer prices. The right balance will be required to avoid a reignition of farmers' potential to dismiss the product this year.
BultiesBrothers
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jessebrown schreef op 1 oktober 2021 17:33:

Dit is de angst,

European Gas Hit Record 100 Euros as Energy Crunch Worsens

European Gas Hit Record 100 Euros as Energy Crunch Worsens
Anna Shiryaevskaya, Vanessa Dezem and Elena Mazneva
Fri, October 1, 2021, 1:11 PM
In this article:

YARIY
+0.23%

YRAIF
0.00%

CF
+6.77%

BASFY
-1.16%

BFFAF
-0.33%

NG=F
-4.48%

CL=F
-0.24%

(Bloomberg) --

European gas surged to a record 100 euros as China stepped up a global fight for energy supplies, in a move that threatens to derail the economic recovery. Prices later retreated.

In volatile trading, benchmark futures gained as much 2.3% on Friday before retreating. China ordered its state-owned energy companies to secure supplies for this winter at all costs, according to people familiar with the matter. That will intensify a battle for liquefied natural gas and coal cargoes just as flows into Germany via a key Russian pipeline tumbled.

Energy prices are rising from the U.S. to Europe and Asia as the economy recovers from the global pandemic and people return to the offices. Europe is struggling to secure enough gas and coal ahead of the winter, with rising prices forcing some of industrial giants from fertilizer producers CF Industries to Yara International ASA and chemicals giant BASF SE to shut plants or curtail output.

Read More: What’s Behind Europe’s Skyrocketing Power Prices: QuickTake

Governments are struggling to respond to the crunch, with an increasing number taking steps to try to shield voters from the worst effects of rising prices. France will block any new increase in regulated gas tariffs and cut taxes on electricity, Prime Minister Jean Castex said on TF1 on Thursday.

“The volatile trading already shows that no one really knows how high gas can go, but we’re definitely in for a wild ride,” said Niek van Kouteren, a senior trader at PZEM, a Dutch energy company. “The question will be: where there will be demand destruction? If you then see governments stepping in and subsidizing gas prices, like France announced yesterday, there is no incentive at all to lower your demand.”

Dutch gas futures surged to 100 euros a megawatt-hour, before retreating 0.7% to 97 euros by 1:05 p.m. in Amsterdam. Prices were swinging between gains and losses as traders weighed the potential for demand curbs as more factories shut or reduce production.

Storage Sites

European storage sites are just under 75% full, the lowest level for this time of year in more than a decade. Inventory withdrawals typically start by the end of the month, depending on the weather. So far, temperatures in northwest Europe are forecast to be largely within seasonal norms in October.

Flows from top supplier Russia into Germany’s Mallnow via the key Yamal-Europe pipeline also dropped just as the heating season begins. At an auction on Thursday, no extra pipeline capacity was booked to deliver fuel to the Mallnow compressor station the following day.

“Gas can go now as high as it needs to knock demand out,” said Andreas Gandolfo, leader of the European power team at BloombergNEF. “For some European industries gas has become too expensive. For some, including us, who have gas heating at home, it can probably go a lot higher before there is a decision to switch off.”

The treat of more industrial closures in Europe also risks stalling the rally in European carbon futures. Some of the companies curtailing production or closing factories are energy-intensive users and need to use carbon permits to cover their emissions. The slowdown could lead them to sell their allowances, said Trevor Sikorski, head of natural gas and energy transition at the London-based consultants Energy Aspects.

Carbon prices rose, adding 2.8% to 63.48 euros a metric ton, while German power gained 3.8% to 134.20 euros a megawatt-hour.

In Asia, the price of liquefied natural gas surged to a record $34.47 per million British thermal units on Thursday. Both the cost in Asia and in Europe are about $190 a barrel of crude oil equivalent.

“Longer term, prices are of course unsuitable high and we do expect gradual normalization next year,” said Oystein Kalleklev, chief executive officer of Flex LNG Ltd. “But with empty inventories there will be a fight for restocking next summer so it will take a bit more time for the market to rebalance.”
Ben ik blij dat ik vorige week vrijdag nog even mijn energiecontract heb vastgezet voor 1j. Kijk ik weer, zie ik dat gas gewoon met 30% omhoog is gegaan (1.0 naar 1.30 per kuub) per 1 oktober. Stroom ook met ca 7 ct per kWh.. Gekkenwerk en winterse temperaturen zijn nog niet eens aan de orde
BultiesBrothers
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www.icis.com/explore/resources/news/2...
(staan nog wat grafiekjes in bericht)

INSIGHT: Fertilizer prices on the rise as energy crisis, tight availability, bite
Author: Sylvia Traganida

2021/10/01

LONDON (ICIS)--All fertilizer products have firmed in recent weeks following the spectacular increase in natural gas prices and continued tight supply in most regions.

Urea prices globally have touched 13-year highs, as the energy crisis has spread from Europe to China.

European natural gas prices continue to rise, with no clarity on when the situation will ease. Urea plants in Europe and Ukraine are shut down, with no restart date in sight.

China is also looking to restrict urea exports to ensure domestic supply at a time when energy availability for factories is short. Exports from Indonesia are likely to be limited because of domestic requirements.

This adds pressure on buyers such as India, which needs to buy at least 1m tonnes/month over the next three months.

Prices have increased each day, with recent sales in the Arab Gulf concluded at $620/tonne free on board (FOB) for October. Egypt, Algeria and the Baltic have also sold granular urea above $600/tonne FOB.

There are not many offers in the market, as suppliers are in a wait-and-see stance and the gap between ammonia and urea prices is closing.

The outlook remains bullish, with natural gas and coal prices likely to face pressure during the winter months, when domestic energy consumption is high.

The paper market is reflecting significantly higher levels, with Brazil trading at $725/tonne cost and freight (CFR) on paper. In the physical market, buying is thin in Brazil as prices increase.

Following recent cuts in ammonia production, yet more European capacity was curtailed on soaring natural gas prices, with BASF the latest producer to reduce output.

Given the chemicals group’s curtailments in Germany and Belgium, the company has been heavily linked to Nutrien’s spot deal with a mystery buyer for 25,000 tonnes from the Caribbean.

Yara and Mosaic agreed a $50/tonne hike in the ammonia Tampa contract for October loadings, although Yara’s talks over the Baltic contracts have yet to conclude.

The Norwegian major purchased a spot cargo in the Black Sea at a premium to September business, as did Borealis in France and Agropolychim in Bulgaria.

Trammo also sold to Borealis and concluded a small sale into Greece, with suggestions the trader may be poised to load a US spot cargo.

With spot deals focused on the west of Suez, business east of Suez was slow ahead of national holidays in northeast Asia.

That left the long-awaited restart of a Saudi ammonia plant as the main talking point. Ma’aden also more than doubled its fleet size as it chartered four tankers to handle output from a new plant.

Ammonia prices softened in Asia Pacific, but it remains unclear if large producers east of Suez will look to sell spot volume into Europe at better margins than can be obtained in their traditional markets.

SUPPLY UNCERTAINTY DRIVES THE PHOSPHATES MARKET
The phosphates market has been characterised by uncertainty recently, as it is unclear whether China will restrict phosphates exports.

So far, there is no official announcement from the government, and phosphates availability out of China remains tight for Q4.

In India, there is diammonium phosphate (DAP) import demand, with a couple of import tenders floated in the market.

Other buyers are reluctant to make purchases due to high prices and snug supply, as well as the wait for the phosphoric acid contract price for Q4 settlement between Moroccan producer OCP and its Indian customers. This is expected to offer some guidance on DAP import demand.

The price is expected to settle at an increase in the next few days, as raw material and DAP prices are up.

In China, phosphates producers are expected to prioritise supply to the domestic market, and it is unclear how much availability they will have for the export market.

Production rates at domestic DAP and monoammonium phosphate (MAP) plants remain stable at 65%.

DAP prices have risen on the netback of a sale to the Philippines. Chinese producers will also be looking at India for demand direction, as buyers will need cargoes for 15 December arrival at the latest.

In the Americas, the Tampa DAP price remains unchanged on a lack of export business from Mosaic.

In the domestic market, DAP and MAP barges traded at higher levels. However, Mosaic agreed on barge business at lower levels for October-December shipment, as supply in North America remains limited.

On the supply side, availability is tight for October and beyond until clarity on the export supply from China arises.

Saudi producers are busy in October with shipments to Africa, India, the US and Brazil. Ethiopia has not issued its annual import tender for NPS, which is expected to keep OCP busy together with phosphoric acid shipments to India.

BULLISH SENTIMENT CONTINUES FOR SULPHUR; POTASH AVAILABILITY STAYS TIGHT
Sulphur sentiment remains bullish, amid good downstream demand.

In China, buying activity is tepid ahead of the Golden Week holiday (1-7 October). Meanwhile, market players are observing the impact of the government’s energy conservation efforts on production.

Chinese port inventories dropped this week, reaching the lowest level since early 2019.

Indian sulphur demand was seen as increasing in the short term, amid uncertainty about Chinese phosphates export availability.

In the Arab Gulf, Muntajat began the posted prices announcements, setting the Qatar Sulphur Price (QSP) at a $14/tonne increase from September. The market awaits announcements from the region’s other major suppliers.

Activity continues in Sub-Sahara Africa, with some deals concluded during the week and some buyers still in need of tonnes.

Fourth quarter negotiations are ongoing in Europe and North Africa.

In the US, Tampa Q4 contract prices were settled at a $12/tonne decline, following a hurricane that damaged Mosaic’s phosphate operations and led to some length in the sulphur market.

In Brazil, multiple buyers are understood to have concluded business at higher levels this week.

In the potash market, Russian muriate of potash (MOP) major Uralkali has again smashed the ceiling on sales into the Latin American powerhouse of Brazil, closing 90,000 tonnes of granular potash at $750-770/tonne CFR, shipping October.

MOP trade is otherwise limited, although offers show no sign of decline.

In southeast Asia offers have firmed considerably on tight supply.

Insight by Sylvia Traganida

Interactives by Erica Sesay
Reporting by the ICIS Fertilizer team
seance
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BultiesBrothers schreef op 1 oktober 2021 18:25:

[...]

Ben ik blij dat ik vorige week vrijdag nog even mijn energiecontract heb vastgezet voor 1j. Kijk ik weer, zie ik dat gas gewoon met 30% omhoog is gegaan (1.0 naar 1.30 per kuub) per 1 oktober. Stroom ook met ca 7 ct per kWh.. Gekkenwerk en winterse temperaturen zijn nog niet eens aan de orde
mensen worden weer heerlijk gepiepeld!
Appel72
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Er sinds vandaag wat veranderd met de turbo’s
Max hefboom mag nog maar 5 zijn, dus kan je van bepaalde series alleen nog maar terug verkopen. Ben benieuwd of er nu andere leuke series turbo long komen. Mogelijk alleen maar lagere stoploss (duurder) wel minder risico dat stoploss wordt aangetikt.
Wel jammer ik kocht vaak OCI turbo’s voor 2 a max 3 euro met een hefboom van 7 tot 9. Ben benieuwd wat voor nieuwe series er maandag worden aangeboden.
BultiesBrothers
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Appel72 schreef op 1 oktober 2021 19:33:

Er sinds vandaag wat veranderd met de turbo’s
Max hefboom mag nog maar 5 zijn, dus kan je van bepaalde series alleen nog maar terug verkopen. Ben benieuwd of er nu andere leuke series turbo long komen. Mogelijk alleen maar lagere stoploss (duurder) wel minder risico dat stoploss wordt aangetikt.
Wel jammer ik kocht vaak OCI turbo’s voor 2 a max 3 euro met een hefboom van 7 tot 9. Ben benieuwd wat voor nieuwe series er maandag worden aangeboden.
Dan maar opties kopen he. Zit je ook niet dat je eruit gekickt wordt met een stop loss
Dubbeldip
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Appel72 schreef op 1 oktober 2021 19:33:

Er sinds vandaag wat veranderd met de turbo’s
Max hefboom mag nog maar 5 zijn, dus kan je van bepaalde series alleen nog maar terug verkopen. Ben benieuwd of er nu andere leuke series turbo long komen. Mogelijk alleen maar lagere stoploss (duurder) wel minder risico dat stoploss wordt aangetikt.
Wel jammer ik kocht vaak OCI turbo’s voor 2 a max 3 euro met een hefboom van 7 tot 9. Ben benieuwd wat voor nieuwe series er maandag worden aangeboden.
Hier hetzelfde. Ging van 20 naar 18 niet zo lekker maar dik en dubbel terug verdiend van 18 naar nu. Ergens jammer dat hefboom nu lager is maar aan de andere kant zijn we ook wel op een koers dat ik een hefboom van 5 prima vind. Kan ik in mijn enthousiasme ook niet alle winsten meer verprutsen:-)
de schaatser
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Nog wat gratis stof tot nadenken:
16 september krijgt CF het advies van de bank of Amerika koersdoel 67 dollar. Op dat moment stonden ze op 48 dollar.
Een verhoging van 40 %. Zij halen vandaag 60 $. Er is dus 12 $ = 25 % winst in 2 weken gerealiseerd.
Op die 16 september stond OCI op 21,70 euro en ik zei indien wij parallel met CF lopen is ons koersdoel voor OCI 30 euro.
Ook een verhoging van 40%. Wij halen vandaag 25,74 euro. Er is dus 4,04 euro= 18,6 % winst in 2 weken gerealiseerd.
We lopen iets bij CF achter.
Verleden week stegen wij 1,78 euro en deze week stegen wij 1,60 euro.
Terwijl de AEX 40 punten daalde deze week. Zowaar een leuke week voor OCI.
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