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shaai
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grrrr, shorten gelukt, maar door mijn eigen fout (onbekendheid ermee) nu pas op 0,558, terwijl ik het eerst op 0,65 of 0,63 wou doen :-(
Stapelaar
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Ik heb ook spijt het niet te hebben gedaan voor een ritje.
Daling in de hand gewerkt door onhandige openhartigheid: www.reuters.com/article/us-banco-popu...
Stapelaar
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Het plan B met Deutsche Bank opstarten na een koersdaling van 0.90 naar 0.55 helpt ook niet qua timing: www.reuters.com/article/spain-popular...
Morgan Stanley ziet er kennelijk geen brood meer in.
shaai
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kenmerkend dat ze nog een MERGER zoeken, dan is realiteit nog niet ingedaald en daarom wellicht die waarschuwing: ze moeten of een nood emissie NU doen, of zichzelf voor niets verkopen.

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Shares in Spanish lender Banco Popular have shed over 8 per cent this morning to at least a 28-year low, following reports that senior EU officials have warned the bank could be wound down if it fails to find a buyer.Yesterday, Reuters reported that Elke Koenig, the head of the eurozone body that winds up failing banks, issued an “early warning” on the state of the lender’s fate if it fails to complete a merger.Earlier this month, Spain’s sixth largest bank said it had received several approaches about a merger. The lender’s shares however have slipped over a third this year while its riskiest bonds – known as additional tier 1 – have plunged in price. Popular revealed a €137m first quarter loss in May.Shares are down 8.3 per cent at publication time to €0.55 – the lowest since at least 1989, according to Bloomberg data. Popular is the biggest faller among major European stocks this morning.Ms Koenig’s Single Resolution Board issued a statement on the back of the reports, saying it could not confirm “the interpretations regarding alleged quotes made by the chair of the SRB”.“The SRB never issues warnings about banks; preparing and drafting resolution plans is our usual and daily core task”, it said.
shaai
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dat ze het over een MERGER plan hebben betekent ook dat de realiteit nog niet is ingedaald: daarom wellicht die winddown waarschwing: ze moeten imo of NU een noodemissie doen, of zichzelf voor niets verkopen, het eigen RvB hachje redden zit er niet meer in, denk ik
fwb
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quote:

Stapelaar schreef op 31 mei 2017 10:12:

[...]

Ik las dat ook eens ergens maar ik vroeg mij af of die info betrouwbaar was. Bronvermelding?
Ik heb het van bloomberg, maar je zou het moeten kunnen afleiden uit Investor Relations bekendmakingen tussen 30-nov-2012 en 31-dec-2013.

Van bloomberg, de laatste corporate action op deze bond:

Debt Repurchase/O
Company Popular Capital SA
ISIN DE0009190702 Currency EUR
Announced Date 12/31/2013

Effective Date 12/31/2013
Amount Retired 187,000.00

New Outstanding Amount 64.697MLN
fwb
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In de financial times:

Pimco hit by price plunge in teetering Spanish bank’s bonds

Banco Popular’s riskiest debt currently trading at distressed levels

5 HOURS AGO by: Thomas Hale in London
Pimco, one of the world’s largest asset managers, has been caught out by the plunge in the price of Banco Popular’s riskiest bonds after it was left holding hundreds of millions of euros in exposure to the distressed Spanish bank.

Banco Popular has become the latest European bank to face questions about bonds issued at the lowest level of seniority, known as additional tier 1 bonds, after a collapse in prices for such debt issued by Deutsche Bank became the locus of fears for the European banking system in early 2016.

Prices for the two securities dropped sharply to record lows on Thursday, after reports that senior EU officials have warned the bank could be wound down if it fails to find a buyer. But the EU agency charged with overseeing bank failures issued a statement saying it “does not confirm” the report.

A perpetual bond with a face value of €500m is quoted at 55 cents on the euro, while the bank’s €750m AT1 is at an indicative price of 48 cents on the euro. Investors in AT1 bonds would be the first debtholders to be wiped out if Popular is wound down.

The share price of Popular has been consistently below €1 since January and dropped more than 8 per cent on Thursday to at least a 28-year low of €0.56.

Pimco owned €279m of Popular’s outstanding €1.25bn of face value in AT1 bonds at the end of March, according to regulatory filings, making it by far the largest holder at the time.

The asset manager declined to comment.

AT1 bonds are issued by banks to meet regulatory requirements. The securities, which pay high coupons, are designed to absorb losses at times of distress, by converting to equity or being written down when the lender’s capital ratio falls below a certain point.

The pressure on bond prices come amid other signs of strain for Popular, which earlier this month disclosed a €137m loss for the first quarter, linked to higher provisions on its real estate portfolio. The bank’s shares have lost a third of their value so far this year.

It’s all a question of confidence now. We know what the problem is, it’s whether they can find a solution
Lloyd Harris, Old Mutual
So far, no AT1 bond has incurred losses for investors, either in terms of principal or coupon deferral, but Popular’s debt has now plumbed lower depths than Deutsche Bank whose paper registered a nadir of 70 cents last September.

“It would be the first triggering of an AT1,” said Lloyd Harris, an analyst at Old Mutual. “These types of events are more likely for Popular than they ever were for Deutsche Bank,” he added.

In mid-May, Popular said it had been approached by several rivals about a merger. The bank’s total capital ratio was 11.9 per cent as of the end of March, compared with 13.5 per cent a year earlier. It is “among the most poorly capitalised banks in Europe”, according to Andrew Lowe, an analyst at Berenberg.

Mr Lowe estimates the bank, which has a market capitalisation of €2.6bn and raised €2.5bn from shareholders in a rights issue last year, needs to raise €3bn-€5bn in additional capital, on top of asset sales.

“If you were to raise €3bn, the market may still question the capital situation,” he said, adding that even in that case, the share count would more than quadruple, creating “huge dilution” for shareholders.

Distress on Popular bonds has not spread to other highly subordinated Spanish bank bonds: a €1.5bn Santander AT1 bond, for example, is trading above 100 cents on the euro.

“It’s all a question of confidence now, to my mind,” said Mr Harris. “We know what the problem is — it’s just whether they can find a solution. I don’t think the regulator can currently say this bank is at the point of non-viability.”
Stapelaar
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Verlies in Q1 is grotendeels spillover van aanpassingen in de balans die in 2016 al hadden moeten plaatsvinden.

In de documentatie worden de oude perps ook wel prefs genoemd. In de balans lees ik daarvoor een bedrag van circa 85M. Dit zou kunnen betekenen dat van de floaters DE000A0BDW10 er nog maar ruim 20M uitstaat.
leisele
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www.elconfidencial.com/empresas/2017-...

The risk of lawsuits click bids for the Popular and exposes it to the resolution

Time is running out for the Popular. After the collapse in the stock exchange and by the high probability that the auction is deserted, the supervisors are already considering the resolution of the bank

Photo: Banco Popular. (Illustration: Raul Arias)
Banco Popular. (Illustration: Raul Arias)
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READING TIME6 min
02.06.2017 – 05:00 pm
The events are precipitated in the crisis of the Banco Popular, as in previous bailouts of financial institutions, only this time compounded by the pressure of the market to be a quoted bank. The risk of costly lawsuits has been thrown back to the possible stakeholders (formally, only Santander and Bankia), who prefer to buy the bank once cleaned up after an eventual resolution, which is the main scenario in these moments. A resolution that does not mean to liquidate the bank, but yes that shareholders and subordinated debt to lose all your money.
Sources familiar with the situation explained that applicants do not decide to submit an offer for several reasons: the difficulty to estimate the deficit of provisions of the entity that presides Emilio Saracho ("a small error of estimation leads to a loss expected to be much higher", as an entity); the fear of holes hidden by credits poorly classified ("on all purchases of boxes has always been a big negative surprises," says another entity), or the difficulty to resolve the joint ventures that have the Popular in insurance, asset management or real estate.

But what more fear gives those interested in the Popular are the risks of lawsuits in the millions by the shareholders who attended the last enlargement. There is precedent of judges who have obliged to compensate to the minority, or even have cancelled corporate transactions to allocate assets to that end. And here could the same thing happen. In favour of the bid, only the low valuation of the bank (2.098 million) after the collapse of yesterday, 18.9% to a new historic low of 0.5 euros; a bid at knockdown prices would generate a goodwill negative very important that the buyer can sign up as a benefit.

Popular sinks to historic low and the subordinated debt falls to 50% of its value
EDUARDO SEGOVIA
Popular has suffered this Wednesday for a collapse of 6,31% to a historic low of close in 0,609 euros. And the subordinadase has fallen up to 50% of its initial value
In what everyone agrees on is that the time has run out and you have to make a decision already. If there are no last-minute surprises, you will fail the sale: "we are no longer in the times when all it took was one call from the Government, now sends out to Europe, and Santander and BBVA, should justify an operation before a shareholders international increasingly activist", says one of the sources.
What is the resolution of a bank?
In that case, the options to save the Popular, are very limited: the bank insists on a possible extension, but the market believes that it is very difficult because of the size needed and because if a bank that has synergies not want to buy it, still less to an investor who would not get that benefit. There that Morgan Stanley has terminated. At that point, only there are two options: to apply the european directive for resolution or to seek a solution 'to the Spanish', as in the case of the Italian Monte dei Paschi; but that would involve a use of public money very difficult to justify in Spain.

On the contrary, the choice of the resolution would not mean an injection of resources from the taxpayer, so that sources close to the Bank of Spain ensures that the supervisor does not see evil this output. The concern of the ECB after the inspection of the Popular advanced the The Confidential is going also in that direction. After the transfer to Europe of the powers of supervising and resolving banks, the established protocol is that there must first be a 'bail-in' or rescue internal, in which must take losses in this order, the shares, subordinated debt, debt, senior and deposits above 100,000 euros. Only after it enters the resolution fund, provided by the banks (for the time being, mainly national, and the european future) and, finally, the public money.

According to some analysts, in the case of Popular would be enough that the shareholders and holders of subordinated (with Allianz through its fund manager Pimco to the head), to lose everything; as much, would in part to the debt and senior in any case to reach the deposits. After the implementation of the resolution, the Popular it would not disappear; on the contrary, it would be healthy and could be sold the 'good bank', which would attract great interest, so that would bid important. According to sources, the large Spanish banks, prefer to wait to apply the new resolution and then bid for the profitable business of the bank, once you get rid of the toxic assets (real estate and credit delinquent) and who has disappeared the cited legal risk.
The problem of small shareholders
The problem of this solution is that the small shareholders would lose everything. However, to avoid the scandal and possible lawsuits against the Bank of Spain and the CNMV (there is the risk of a new case Bankia), could be sought formulas for resarcirlos —probably by the losses of those who came to the last expansion— following the resolution of the bank, as has been done with the preferred and the IPO of Bankia. Is estimated to cost around 1,000 million which should be borne by the bank itself after the rescue; rescue private shareholders with public money, it would be very complex.

Who is going to win the bid for Banco Popular?
E. SEGOVIA
In the Moneytalks this week, Eduardo Segovia speaks to us of one of the largest auctions bank produced in the history of Spain, the Bank
Opt for another solution is complicated. Endosarle the Popular Bankia would lead to the resignation of Goirigolzarri and it would be very difficult for you to get the approval of a Parliament fragmented as the Spanish; and three-quarters of the same thing would happen with a covert support by the transfer of the brick from the bank to the Sareb. It is the way of the Monte dei Paschi, the "measure of early action," which allows inyectar resources of the citizens without putting the entity in resolution. But the article 32 of directive 2014/59 resolution of credit institutions establishes a requirements to implement this mechanism almost impossible to apply the Popular.
"These measures will have a precautionary and temporary and will be proportionate to the resolution of the consequences of the serious disturbance and shall not be used to compensate for losses that the institution has suffered or will suffer probably in the immediate future," according to this rule, when it is precisely the Popular what you need is to absorb the losses of the brick. It also provides that these payments "shall be limited to the capital injections necessary to address capital shortfall established in the endurance test ('stress test'), on the quality reviews of the assets ('asset quality review')", which is the case of the Italian bank, but not the Spanish.
Stephan
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Komt er een bail out ?
Zodra Banco Populare in de problemen komt wil ik daarvan profiteren en ING en DB aandelen kopen (niet gelijk kopen trouwens)
shaai
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rauf schreef op 4 juni 2017 17:54:

Komt er een bail out ?
Zodra Banco Populare in de problemen komt wil ik daarvan profiteren en ING en DB aandelen kopen (niet gelijk kopen trouwens)
of een bail-in?
dat is nu allemaal de vraag.
maar aan het koersverloop te zien, ZIJN ze al in problemen, want een claim emissie wordt er zo niet makkelijker op
shaai
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www.lavanguardia.com/economia/2017060...

Popular's choices are reduced to finding a buyer or bailout
The bank's management will meet with the ECB on Tuesday to discuss liquidity

04/06/2017 09:58 | Updated 04/06/2017 10:47
The infernal week that has lived the Popular Bank in stock market with a collapse of the 38% quotation (remaining as the value of the smaller Ibex) is the reflection that the entity can not continue alone. The options for the sixth Spanish bank by assets are reduced to two large blocks: a private exit that would pass by a buyer (since the capital increase is almost ruled out) or an exit supervised by the administration (in this case, the Single Mechanism Resolution, MUR, of the European Union). Although in the last hours a kind of third way has been opened with the mechanism agreed by Italy with the European Union to rescue Monte dei Paschi.
While the bank's future is being resolved, it was said that Popular's board plans to meet with officials of the European Central Bank (ECB) next Tuesday to discuss measures to improve the bank's liquidity, according to Reuters and Bloomberg.

Alternative
The solution designed in Italy for Monte dei Paschi is an intermediate option
Within the block of private solutions, the simplest but also the one that has fewer options at this point would be to carry out a capital increase. It is almost impossible for Emilio Saracho's bank to find investors considering that less than a year ago it carried out a capital increase of 2.5 billion euros and today the bank is worth 1.7 billion.
The option to buy is a possibility given that each time the price of the stock is cheaper (has lost 99% of its value since the highs of 2007), but doubts about the real situation of the bank away the Buyers. Precisely, the decision of the management of the entity to delay until the end of the month the auction is a sample of the difficulties you are encountering to find a boyfriend. Although initially large Spanish banks looked at the guts of the Popular only Santander and Bankia seems to have a real interest in studying it, according to sources consulted.

 
General Meeting of Banco Popular, chaired by Emilio Saracho (Dani Duch)
On the side of the solutions managed by the public administrations until the agreement reached this week by the Monte dei Paschi it seemed that the only option was the bail-in. This mechanism seeks to prevent taxpayers from assuming the burden of rescuing a troubled bank and opting to be those who benefit from the entity (whether shareholders or bondholders and even large clients with deposits of more than 100,000 Euros) who are responsible for the rescue.

The MUR can act when there are a number of situations such as lack of liquidity or its solvency ratios are below the minimum required by the European Central Bank (ECB). These situations do not occur in the Popular because otherwise the MUR would have acted. In reality, the Single Resolution Mechanism must be very careful when it decides to intervene because it is exposed to the demands of those affected in the future if the causes of an intervention are not properly accredited. And the reason is because investors with bail-in can lose some of their capital and even the whole: they are shareholders, junior and senior debt holders and depositors who are not covered by the Guarantee Fund Deposits (amounts over 100,000 euros). In the case of Popular, in addition to the shareholders, which would obviously lose their investment, the same could happen to holders of convertible bonds (1,250 million have been issued) and holders of subordinated debt (almost 700 million additional).
Evolution
The bank's shares plummeted this week 38% in the absence of buyer
Once the bank had rescued itself through the mechanism envisaged by the European Union could be sold jointly or in parts. Another alternative would be liquidation, which would obviously be more costly.
For this reason, the analysts and experts consulted say that the solution adopted by the Italian Government may be a reference to prevent a Spanish bank from opening the Single Resolution Mechanism in Europe.
Saracho asks calm and confidence to the staff
The president of Banco Popular, Emilio Saracho, assured to the directors of the entity that the bank is solvent, asking them calmness and confidence. "Banco Popular is still solvent and has positive assets," he said in a letter to the staff - published by Expansión -
that recognized the "difficult situation" of the bank. Saracho, who added that Popular would continue to seek a capital increase or a buyer to deal with its bulging portfolio of non-productive assets.

shaai
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BANCAP restructuring process of the entity
What about the savings of Banco Popular customers?

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Banco Popular faces a crucial week for its future with another big bump in the stock market
Banco Popular is still on the list
Banco Popular has started the week in the same way that ended the previous one: with a stock market crash that on Monday has reached -18.16%. Its securities continue to plummet and are changed to € 0.338, which has placed the value of the company at € 1,419 million. The entity faces decisive days for its future and today's meeting with officials of the European Central Bank is emerging as a crucial event to move towards a solution that guarantees its viability. The doubts and rumors of recent days have only encouraged the uncertainty of customers who have their savings deposited in the company chaired by Emilio Saracho, so the question is inevitable: is the money safe?
"Confidence and calm" is the message repeated by Manuel Pardos, president of Adicae, the Association for the Defense of Consumers and Users of Banks, Cajas and Seguros. If the entity finds a buyer before the limit established by Brussels, "the logical and the ethical thing is for that buyer to assume the commitments of the Popular," he points out. If the European authorities are forced to intervene, the Single Resolution Mechanism (MUR) sets out in detail the process that should be followed for the restructuring of the company.
When is an intervention considered?
The first condition is that the entity is not feasible -Popular indicated last week that it is solvent - or that it will be in the near future. The second is that private sector measures are unable to resolve this lack of viability. The third is that, for reasons of system stability, intervention is preferable to dissolution.
What consequences would it have?
There are different grades, but in the executive resolution, the managers are relieved and the entity split. For those affected, everything depends on the relationship with the entity; That is, it depends on whether it is a shareholder, creditor or depositor. Only the latter are guaranteed by law and through the Deposit Guarantee Fund up to 100,000 euros. Guaranteed deposits have maximum preference in the hierarchy of creditors and those belonging to individuals and small businesses have "recognized preference".
Why this hierarchy?

In the case of a resolution, internal recapitalization or bail in instruments are established. This has a cost that the law intends the entity to "internalize" to the greatest extent possible. For this reason, the loss absorption scheme focuses on the shareholders and creditors of the entity if it is not feasible. Deposits are the last credits of an entity to be affected.
What happens then if I have my savings in Popular?
Customers with current accounts and deposits worth up to 100,000 euros can rest easy, since that amount is fully covered by the Deposit Guarantee Fund, whether Banco Popular finds a buyer or whether it ultimately has to be intervened by Brussels.
This fund is a body to which banks subscribe and allows investors to recover their money in the event that any of these entities can not meet their payments and obligations.
From Adicae insist that "the savings in general, up to 100,000 euros, are fully guaranteed in any case." However, Pardos advises users to accumulate a higher number of savings, not to retain them in a single entity, but to diversify among several to reduce risks.
The advice and procedures are the same for small and medium-sized companies that are part of the Popular network, which covers a 17.7% market share of SMEs in Spain.
And the shareholders?
They are among the most disadvantaged. In fact, they are already suffering the collapse of the entity on the Stock Exchange, whose shares depreciated more than 38% last week; Since the last capital increase, a year ago, the value has fallen more than 63%.
But, in addition, they would be the first to bear the losses, as established in Article 4 of the Law on recovery and resolution of credit and investment services companies.
The next to take losses would be the holders of contingent convertible bonds (the so-called 'cocos'); Then the subordinated debt, the preferred and the senior debt and finally the deposits not covered by the FGD, ie, those exceeding 100.00 euros.
Credits and mortgages
Customers who have contracted some type of credit or mortgage with Banco Popular, must continue to meet their obligations, either with a hypothetical new buyer or with the entity to which the MUR awarded in case of redemption.
If users have initiated some kind of court proceedings against the bank for issues such as ground or preferential clauses, the liability would now lie with the new owner.
leisele
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Is een google vertaling, origineel Spaans

www.elconfidencial.com/empresas/2017-...

Saracho-ECB: solution of urgent for the people's Bank before its collapse stock

Not even an extension of the ECB can prevent the distrust of the investors. Tap an immediate solution, which will be the resolution except a sale at the last minute

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READING TIME5 min
06.06.2017 – 05:00 pm
Neither the regulators, nor the governments, nor the international institutions: who decides when it has finished game to a company is the market. Happened in cases like Bankia or Abengoa, and now history is repeating itself with the Banco Popular. The plummeting stock value, the 50% in four sessions, launches a clear message that nobody can ignore. Add to that the differences of criteria in the council and the mistrust generated on the clients, it is worth nothing that Emilio Saracho boot an extension to the ECB. We need an urgent solution, that will be the resolution, unless a sale (Santander) at the last minute.
Quote of the Banco Popular in the last year.
Quote of the Banco Popular in the last year.
"We can not take anymore at this rate, is unsustainable and that the action is to drop 15% every day, "admits a source in the bank. In the sector as a whole, it is hoped a solution is imminent because "this crisis hurts us all." In fact, it has been quite surprised that it has not taken any action this weekend, something that I hoped almost all of the world and that is accounted for by the enormous bureaucracy that now requires the resolution mechanism single european.

Banco Popular continues to tumble
As is well known, this Tuesday Saracho plans to meet with senior officials of the ECB, but this meeting has already been overtaken by events. The european supervisor was the one who imposed the president of the Popular as a deadline to find a solution to the presentation of the results of the first semester, and also who motivated the accelerated process of sale, at the time that an inspection will alerted about the true dimension of the situation of the Popular. Now, you can grant an extension, but at this point, it seems sterile. The same thing happens with the liquidity: you can guarantee you how much is needed, but that's not addressing the loss of customers.

The council of the people's Bank complains that Saracho its plan to sell the bank
EDUARDO SEGOVIA
The crisis of the Popular has burned to the council, which last week rebelled against the president for failing to find a solution and to affect the good part of the bank.
And is that the collapse in the stock market is bursting the seams of the bank. After harsh criticism from several councillors at the president for not having found an outlet, on Monday submitted his resignation to the representative of Crédit Mutuel, holder until now of almost 4% of the capital. A generalized interpretation is that the entity French intended to break off this engagement before it is worth zero, and has wanted to leave the tip in order to avoid possible accusations of insider trading. In any case, another sign of mistrust after the exit of large investors such as BlackRock to which may be added more if no one puts an end to this situation in brief.
Or last minute sale, or resolution
"Is having meetings at the highest level in all parties to try to resolve the crisis of the Popular right away," says a source knowledgeable of the situation. "The problem is that the solution is not easy." Another source in the industry explained that "the Government does not want to inject public money under any circumstances, but it does not want the first bank in which you apply the resolution mechanism european —with private money— whether it be Spanish, in order to avoid a new wave of mistrust in our financial system, which in turn increases the risk premium... and resurrects the ghost of 2012".

[Timeline: What happens with the Popular?]

The problem is that, to avoid this scenario, someone needs to make a last minute offer by the Popular; and that someone may not be more than the Santander, unless major surprise. The sinking of the quote you provide this option, especially if we add the conversion of the 1,200 million of CoCos (subordinated debt) in capital to reduce the electric bill of the recapitalization that will be required by the buyer. And you need to add the 'badwill' and synergies. But, at the other end, it still weighs much the possible deficit of provisions of the 36,000 billion of toxic assets, plus an amount very difficult to estimate of loans refinanced in mora bad classified. And, finally, there is the risk of mass claims by the last enlargement, a decisive argument to scare off interested parties.
What public or private money?
If, as everything seems to indicate, finally there is no offer in the next few hours (getting to the 10 of June set as the deadline for the auction seems utopian at this point), the minister Luis de Guindos, with the acquiescence of the ECB and the European Commission, they must choose between the recapitalization with public money or the resolution; and there is no time nor would it be feasible to already try a enlargement. The first option, known as 'early action', is the one that has been applied to the Italian Monte dei Paschi and allows saving of losses to shareholders and creditors, but thanks to the money of the taxpayer. Something that seems very difficult in our country with the current weakness of the Executive, when it is a private bank and, on top, next to Opus Dei. In addition, the Popular, do not fit any of the circumstances set out in the directive of resolution to this formula.
The minister of Economy, Industry and Competitiveness minister, Luis de Guindos. (EFE)
The minister of Economy, Industry and Competitiveness minister, Luis de Guindos. (EFE)
On the contrary, if you opt for the resolution, there will be a 'bail-in' or rescue internal, in that they must take losses, in this order, the actions, the CoCos and subordinated debt debt senior and deposits above 100,000 euros. This outcome might result in a social problem (small shareholders) and the judiciary, with a potential barrage of claims against the Bank of Spain and CNMV.
Therefore, the sources consulted argue that, before adopting the resolution, they sought formulas for resarcirlos —probably by the losses of those who came to the last expansion— following the resolution of the bank, as has been done with the preferred and the IPO of Bankia. Is estimated to cost around 1,000 million which should be borne by the bank itself after its rescue. The roadmap will be decided, most probably, this Tuesday in Frankfurt.
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Moody's lowers the rating of the Popular two notches into 'junk bond'

The agency DBRS added to the entity 'degree of speculation'

Photo: Office of banco Popular in Madrid. (Reuters)
Office of banco Popular in Madrid. (Reuters)
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The bad news keep piling up at the doors of the Banco Popular. This afternoon, the rating agency creditica Moody's has downgraded the rating of long-term debt of the entity two steps to classify it under the 'degree of speculation' or 'junk bond', from 'Ba3' to 'B2' with ' perspective 'negative'.
The agency's decision is based on the "recent evolution of the entity in the market" and the impact that could have on the financial metrics of the bank.
Moody's considers that "the continuous flow of negative news related to the future of the bank, has impacted negatively on the confidence of consumers and investors". For the agency, the entity is under "increasing pressure" to improve its ability to absorb risks.
In addition, to make its decision, the agency has taken into account the changes in the structure of liabilities of the entity during the past year, along with your expectation on the evolution of the balance sheet of the bank.
In the same way, the ratings agency DBRS has also downgraded the rating of the entity. In this case, the note of the bank has gone from 'BBB (low)' to 'BB (low)', which represents a fall of three steps and the input from the entity in 'negative perspective of investment'.
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Santander overweegt overname Banco Popular'
Gepubliceerd op 6 jun 2017 om 20:17

MADRID (AFN) - Banco Santander overweegt een overnamebod te doen op zijn kleinere, noodlijdende branchegenoot Banco Popular. De grootste bank van Spanje zou daarvoor nieuwe aandelen ter waarde van meer dan 5 miljard euro moeten uitgeven, meldde persbureau Bloomberg dinsdag op gezag van bronnen rond de beraadslagingen.
Banco Popular is in moeilijkheden geraakt door vastgoedleningen waarvan twijfelachtig is geworden of ze nog kunnen worden afgelost. Daardoor is de kapitaalbuffer zo sterk verslechterd, dat de Europese Centrale Bank (ECB) de bank tot maatregelen heeft aangespoord. Een verkoop lijkt de laatste strohalm, ook omdat het vertrouwen bij beleggers door alle problemen ver te zoeken is. Het aandeel is de afgelopen week ruim de helft minder waard geworden.

Santander heeft volgens de ingewijden waar Bloomberg mee sprak nog geen besluit genomen over een mogelijk bod. Er komt alleen een aandelenuitgifte als de bank zijn branchegenoot daadwerkelijk inlijft.
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Er was vorige week ook speculatie ,Société Générale heeft even de rekening gemaakt (indien een van de Spaanse banken met Santander op kop zich sterk genoeg zou voelen) let vooral op de datum.

23.05.2017 – 05:00 pm
Buy the Popular Bank would be a huge cost in terms of capital for potential buyers, since they would have to make the macroampliaciones in the market with which to replenish their levels of solvency after cover the deficit of provisions of the bank that presides Emilio Saracho; that's not counting possible extra holes discovered in the examination of their accounts. According to estimates by Société Générale, Santander would need to capture the investors a total of 12,500 million, BBVA would need 9.300, CaixaBank should request 7,500 and Bankia, 5.800.
The French investment bank part of the basis of that, who was the winner in the bid (if any), the acquisition of Popular double their toxic assets (NPA, loan loss reserves and foreclosed property assets) in Spain. Even assuming that it uses up all the goodwill negative ('badwill', difference between the book value and the price paid at the purchase, which is considered an income), that figure is between 3,500 and 4,200 million, all the big banks would see their rate of NPA between the 62% and 56%.

This would have adverse consequences for their listing on the stock exchange and for your 'rating', even though BBVA will be the least would suffer because it is the bank with greater coverage of their toxic assets in the present. But, in any case, all the potential buyers would have to increase capital. SG justifies their calculations on the need to achieve a ratio of CET1 capital ('fully loaded') of 11.5% following the acquisition, a level that is superior to that they now have the own BBVA and Santander. The expansion, which would require the first (9.300 million) equivalent to 20% of its market capitalisation current, approximately, while that which we would take to the bank that presides over Ana Botín (to 12,500) accounts for 15% of its market value.

Who is going to win the bid for Banco Popular?
E. SEGOVIA
In the Moneytalks this week, Eduardo Segovia speaks to us of one of the largest auctions bank produced in the history of Spain, the Bank
Greater would be the impact on the banks purely national, in relative terms, although the capital should capture would be lower. In the case of CaixaBank, the 7,500 million represent 32% of its stock market value, and in that of Bankia, 5.800 million reaching 47% of capitalization. The most extreme case would be that of Sabadell, which would need to increase capital by 66% of its value, 6,500 million. This probably helps to explain why the bank who presides over mr. Josep Oliu has ruled out going to the 'due diligence' (in-depth examination of the accounts) Popular that it is currently undertaking.
The needs may be much greater
In addition, these figures may stay very short, according to SG. In the first place, because they have only on account of a shortfall in provisions 3,600 million, when other analysts, as KBW) rise up to 5.600, and when there may be other deficits hidden by the poor classification of the credits; The Confidential has been argued that this can amount to 3,000 million, according to the examination of the participants in the bid. In the second place, because there are a number of uncertainties that may raise the capital requirements.

In particular, it refers to the risk of lawsuits by the shareholders who attended the capital increase of the Popular June of last year and the costs of breaking the alliances that have the entity with other firms in insurance, investment funds, real estate management or consumer credit. But perhaps the biggest focus of doubt is the need for a provision for real estate assets beyond the industry average to be able to sell them quickly: "Having the right coverage does not guarantee a reduction of the NPA. For a potential buyer, adding 37,000 million of NPA to their own and get rid of them would require material efforts of the managers and the continuity of the economic recovery in Spain".
To provide more provisions to sell cheaper
"In addition, above the focus of managers and employees, the only way to converge with the average for the system and get rid of the NPA faster than the competitors would be to provide some higher provisions, which would diminish the book value of the real estate and will allow you to be more competitive in selling prices, "adds this signature. As has explained The Confidential, the good part of the bank (business smes) and the synergies obtained by the buyer must compensate for these deficits for someone to offer a positive price for the Popular.
But if to this joins the need to raise the amounts of capital that you calculated SG, with the corresponding dilution of shareholders, the things get very up-hill for any of the candidates finished by presenting an acceptable offer by the council of the Popular. And then one would have to think of other alternatives, which would hardly increase its share capital: why an investor —who has no industrial synergy— I would pay more than a bank that does.
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